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EE Party Tent scene ~ plus “Dremes and Dragons” by jan-u-wine, a poem of young Frodo.

Posted on 2007.11.10 at 19:55
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Yes, yes. You read my past entries correctly. The retrospective, featuring jan-u-wine's An Extra Ordinary Life, was meant to be my last screencap post. However, browsing the films to find the screencaps for that entry, I saw that there still were many scenes I wanted to cap, or cap in a different format, just for the beauty of them. Also, it occurred to me that images from some of the scenes might serve to highlight more of Jan’s poems.

Jan-u-wine has done many fine poems depicting Frodo as a lad, set before LotR begins, but I’ve never thought of ways to showcase these poems using screencaps. Alas, LotR’s screenwriters invented many scenes for their films, including the one below, but none of them were flashbacks to Frodo’s childhood. Nevertheless, I decided that some of the scenes, especially earlier ones, might set the poems off well.

Below are caps from the EE Party Tent scene, a scene I screencapped very early in my project, since it is a favourite scene from the trilogy. The caps are good (link provided at bottom of entry), but I thought they could be improved. I thought it would be nice to show more of Bilbo, too. So, for the sake of illustrating the poem below, I made a new set. Also, I tweaked the new set a bit more for lighting and focus.

In Jan’s poem, Dremes and Dragons, Frodo is a very young lad, musing in his parents' garden. The book his mysterious “uncle” has given him has set his imagination on fire. In the EE scene Frodo is not a lad, but a hobbit grown, just come of age. But, like the lad in the poem, Party Tent Frodo is open, eager, full of ardour and the joy of youth. He does not yet bear the burden, and taint, of the Ring. In the EE scene, and in the poem, Frodo really does seem to be the person of whom Bilbo could say, “of all my numerous relations, you were the one Baggins that showed real spirit.”


Film scene:

Bilbo stands at the entrance to the tent, greeting guests. Mrs. Bracegirdle has just walked away when a strident voice is heard.

Lobelia’s voice: Bilbo?

Bilbo: Sackville Baginses! Quickly! Hide!

Frodo hustles Bilbo into the tent where they hide. The Sackville-Bagginses stalk by. When they are gone, his relief evident, Bilbo turns to Frodo.

Bilbo: Thank you, my boy. You're a good lad, Frodo. I'm very selfish, you know. [Frodo looks wonderingly at Bilbo.] Yes, I am. Very selfish. I don't know why I took you in after your mother and father died, but it wasn't out of charity. I think it was because of all my numerous relations, you were the one Baggins that showed real spirit.

Frodo: Bilbo, have you been in the Gaffer's home brew?

Bilbo: No! Well yes, but that's not the point. The point is, Frodo…. You'll be alright.

Whatever Bilbo might have said, he changes his mind, covering the transition by taking a draught from his mug.



Dremes and Dragons

~ by jan-u-wine

Mumma's garden.

It is summer.

I am small enough
to hide
the grey coolness
of the bench
before the shadowed wall.

The heat-slow'd river's
deep green
whispers beyond the gate….

the sky's hot blue
through the arms
of the trees.

took tea with us today…..

In the secret stillness
of my hiding place,
I touch the book
he brought.

Soft-washed grey,
face veined
by twining letters
I cannot read.

They look like the trails of stars,
these letters:
from an over-turned

Age-worn parchment
upon pictures….

Pictures which fill my mind
even as my sun-hazed eyes
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
The grass beneath the bench is
*very* green….

and sweetly damp
with soft earth smell.

Prism'd sunlight,
like a fire's bright flame,
advances upon the path.

My hand lies,
within its amber-hued

It is *far* too bright,
*far* too hot,
to be the light of the Sun.

I cannot move,
can not make
even the smallest

The grey wall that holds the World
blushes pink with fire,
the sweet grass


bending before flame-driven

My hand still lies
outside the small haven
of the bench.


It is beautiful.

It is terrible.

It is the Creature of the book.

Armour of burnished gold,
it advances.

Is the roughened scale
of its golden hide


like the flame
it sends,
before it?

I want to touch it.

I want to look
into its eyes.

I wonder,
as the World
turns to blazed crimson
about me,

I wonder
at all it must have seen…..

All the Ages of the World….

the Stars turning from bright to dim
in ancient skies….

lands and Seas
and people
who are no more.

I want to know those things…..

I want to know…..

I want……
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Warm lips touch my forehead.

A hand, smelling of summer
and lavender,
lifts mine from where it still stays.

Oh, Mumma, I saw a dragon!

He was Red

and Gold

and Green…..



And Mumma just smiles,
and pulls me to her.

I think,
as her heart
beats slow against my ear,

(as the river beyond the gate
runs swift upon the rock)

I shall find the Dragon

He waits

beneath the grey of the bench,

where my fingers
have made
a soft diamond
of the page's edge.


Do you want to see the Dragon, too?


Screencaps of the same scene, posted last year:

~ EE scene inside the Party Tent.

Most recent screencap entry:

~ ‘An Extra Ordinary Life’: a retrospective poem by jan-u-wine, with screencaps from the three films.

Other Tables of Links:

~ Entries with jan-u-wine's poems.

~ Frodo & Elijah Wood screencap entries

~ Mechtild


magpie_2 at 2007-11-11 03:21 (UTC) (Link)

what a beautifulf poem, and it is perfect for this!

I just have to say I could never be a director because I could of never cut this scene ;) the extended edition was such a treat all around but this scene captures so much of the book .. that slower pace almost a relish of each others company and *guh* Frodo's skin is glowing! er but I digress....
mechtild at 2007-11-11 14:55 (UTC) (Link)
I am betting they all were very sorry to have cut this and many other scenes. Thank heaven for the advent of the DVD and "director's cut"s. While it is true that there are scenes added in TTT and RotK that I'd rather they had left in the "do not disturb" pile, I love others of the additions to regret the making of the EE versions. The EE of FotR is just about perfect. Nothing, absolutely nothing was added that didn't enhance the final piece.

(And, uh, *yes* to the glow of Frodo's skin in this scene.....)
Lavender Took
lavendertook at 2007-11-11 05:12 (UTC) (Link)
However, browsing the films to find the screencaps for that entry, I saw that there still were many scenes I wanted to cap, or cap in a different format, just for the beauty of them.

Yay! (-:

It's been long enough that I've been following and haven't commented--I've been holding off with the excuse that I'd comment when I finished my icon set from your stills and got them the way I want them and then show them to you. But I assume you are also mortal and, well, we may not live that long.(-; Thank you for all the wonderful caps and your Frodo-centric and Frodolijah enthusiasm. (I share this enthusiam, but I've diverted it into love for the rough draft version of Frodo, Bingo, which has been a fun muse for me, and for whose role-playing LJ I'm making the icons.) I am very grateful to you. And like any Frodo fan, I'm glad you're not sailing away yet and are staying to make us more entries. Thank you. (-:

I've enjoyed your commentary and Jan-u-wine's poems, though I've been more visually focused here and hope to go back and attend to your texts more. I so love the portion of her poem here imaging the tengwar on the page as stars transformed to falling petals--what a wonderful image.

The early scenes of happy, wry, Frodo in the film's adaptation of the book seem much more like book Frodo to me then most of how he is depicted after and I missed his sarcastic humor in the film, but was interested by what the adaptation achieved. In some scenes, I could see Frodolijah as the book's older Frodo whose physical age got slowed to just over coming of age by the ring, but this is one of the scenes when he barely seems coming of age, so it's perfect for depicting a younger wee Frodo.
mechtild at 2007-11-11 15:10 (UTC) (Link)
Why thank you, Lavender Took, for stopping to write this lovely and interesting comment! :)

I have to agree that book and film Frodo are different incarnations, but so was Bingo. Bingo himself led the Scouring of the Shire, didn't he, rather keen for blood-letting? It's been a while since I read that section in the HoME. I think JRRT was right to let himself be led in direction of portraying Frodo, post-Quest, as someone who felt that his role as "man of action" (i.e. a warrior-hero) would never be fulfilled. Even apart from any revulsion Frodo might have felt on account of his personal experiences, I think it was made clear that bearing arms was not his calling. It was that of his fellows, but not his. He was to be the reconciler, peace-maker.

But I agree with you completely that film Frodo left the path of book Frodo when his sense of humour, his biting wit, got left behind as he began to suffer in the films. It does make a comeback, but in the EE. The "best salt in all the Shire" scene in the opening of TTT definitely reminds audiences that Frodo was a pretty wry fellow, sharing in the essentially cheerful outlook of hobbits when facing adversity. A couple of posts from now I'll be posting a widescreen version of the second half of the FotR cart scene (w Gandalf). It is notable, really, that the scriptwriters gave Frodo some witty, arch things to say there, which shows they meant well, at least at the start.

But you are role-playing as Bingo? That is *fascinating*. Is the RP as a whole based on the earlier drafts? I mean, is Strider the roving hobbit with the wooden shoes (and feet)? Is there a "Frodo Took" and so forth? That would be so cool to play with. No wonder you are so involved, there's so much room for invention!
Lavender Took
lavendertook at 2007-11-17 06:01 (UTC) (Link)
I'm sorry for my delay in replying.

Yup, Bingo (was a different incarnation (even the dates and parents vary, thus I worked him in as Frodo's 6 years elder half brother in rping. (-; ) And yes, he was quite the Rambo Baggins taking Merry's role in early drafts of the Scouring. I love the change in Frodo's role to peacekeeper, making sure the hobbits don't become monsters themselves in taking vengence for their wrongs, beyond freeing themselves and getting back what they claimed as their own. I was just very tickled and touched by Tolkien's difficuty in letting go of the name Bingo when changing back and forth a couple times to Frodo. And Chris Tolkien's footnote on the origin of the Bingo name is one of my favorite footnotes ever. I knew about Bingo and Trotter from The Letters I read a couple decades ago, but I didn't know abut the HoME until after the first film came out, and it was such a joy to me.

That cart scene is quintessential Frodo and Gandalf--I love the lines they came up with there--very true to the characters--that was great fanfic writing there from Fran and Phillipa.

Now Bingo would kiss you for saying "earlier drafts" rather than "rough drafts"--he's a bit touchy about that, though he actually likes the terms "First Drafts" and "retro-drafts" best. :-P And yes, we did have a Trotter for a while, and I've done some backstory of Trotter and Bingo's adventures in Umbar and Khand saving southland hobbit children from slaver ships and rescuing endangered mumakil, this while the War of the Ring was taking place northward. (-;

But the larger game was totally cracked--it was a satiric and crazed game that started popping up on LJ in the late winter of 2002 called the Middle-earth Sockpuppet Theater, or MESPT. Journaling online, with its threaded interactions, was still a pretty new way of roleplaying back then. I started on LJ in May of 2002 in the post-FotR film mania, expressly to join it. What was so much fun was that obscure characters from the genealogical trees in the Appendices, The Silmarillion, Lost Tales, HoME--Valar, Elves, Humans, Orcs, would just pop up in threads as someone new joined in the fun, or one of the people who had 50 sockpuppets added another one. And some of the writers were hilarious. It was set post-quest, any character could be resurrected, and it was full of meta--some people played just for slap stick, some included continuity in their storylines, some posted mostly serious threads, lots of us liked mixing modes. Frodo and Sam married and were the most dysfunctional sitcom couple ever--their writers were very clever. Others reveled in coming up with plot devices to torment them--Sancho Proudfoot being the cleverest villain. Rosie torched the Shire with a flamethrower and ran off with Denethor, etc. People who were well versed in the fratricidal history of the elves developed those areas of Middle-earth and lovers of Rohan and Gondor developed those. The people who would come up with the best satire had the best grasp on the minutia of Middle-earth. It was so much easier to read the Silmarillion after playing with these folks. Icons of the players' choice--mostly actors and musicians--were used for the myriad characters not featured in the films. And some fun stuff was done through icon choice as well.

Most people dropped out of playing in 2003, but a few of us kept writing through 2005 with more emphasis on character and plot continuity than satire, and Bingo's been periodically posting still. I always thought of it as collaborative writing as much as role playing due to the wonderful format LJ gives for characters to set a scene and interact. I so miss having people to write with--I have a whole crew of hobbits that sprung up around Bingo, some also early drafts, and others; I really miss our Shire. I need to recruit.(-: I also need to set up that Bingo Bolger-Baggins Preservation Society community one of these days. (-;

Anyway, I could give you links to Bingo, and some early and later MESPT threads if you're interested in perusing them. And if you know of anyone who wants to write LoTR characters collaboratively and improvisationally with some hobbits and others with weird and traumatic pasts, send them my way. (-:
mechtild at 2007-11-29 02:38 (UTC) (Link)
Hi, Lavender. I've been away for two weeks and have just begun to open my replies. Sorry this went unanswered for so long!

Your warm zeal for the role-playing game shows in your response. I don't know how people keep on top of this sort of hobby. It sounds very habit-forming--and engrossing--thus definitely *not* something people with too much to do and weak willpower should go near! ;)
shirebound at 2007-11-11 13:50 (UTC) (Link)
What a beautiful poem. What a beautiful hobbit.
mechtild at 2007-11-11 14:56 (UTC) (Link)
Yes to both, Shirebound. Thanks for commenting. :)
bagma at 2007-11-11 18:15 (UTC) (Link)
What a beautiful poem, full of magic and wonder! And the screencaps are beautiful, too. I love that scene in the film; the interaction between Frodo and Bilbo is very touching, and of course Frodo's face is pure perfection. I could look at him for hours... But wait! It's exactly what I did!:)
mechtild at 2007-11-11 21:25 (UTC) (Link)
Hi! Thanks for commenting on poem and pictures, Bagma!

Frodo's face is pure perfection

Isn't it, though...? *sighs* (still)
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mechtild at 2007-11-12 21:58 (UTC) (Link)
I love that scene to pieces. His interaction with Bilbo is priceless. And his loveliness is, even for him, amazing.
addie71 at 2007-11-13 02:01 (UTC) (Link)
This is one of my favorite scenes, I'm so glad that it was put back in in the EE. Thanks for the gorgeous screencaps and the beautiful poem.
mechtild at 2007-11-13 04:01 (UTC) (Link)
Thanks for commenting, Addie, on both the caps and the poem. It really is a lovely scene. I am so glad they made it, and that it made it into the EE. But how I would love to see this on the big screen!
frodosweetstuff at 2007-11-15 14:17 (UTC) (Link)
Oh, I love that scene. Frodo looks utterly divine. *dreams*

Thank you!
mechtild at 2007-11-15 15:25 (UTC) (Link)
Frodo looks utterly divine.

He certainly does...!

Edited at 2007-11-15 03:26 pm (UTC)
julchen11 at 2008-08-07 21:58 (UTC) (Link)
What a beautiful post, my dear. The screencaps are fantastic, so many scenes didn't make it to the film - this one is one of my favourites.
Frodo's innocent and carefree life before the quest, doesn't he look very pretty, here? -
and Bilbo! Oh, how I love Bilbo here.

Jan's poem is just perfect for this.

I shall find the Dragon

He waits

beneath the grey of the bench,

where my fingers
have made
a soft diamond
of the page's edge.


Do you want to see the Dragon, too?"

I don't know what to say but I simply LOVE this post!

Thanks, my dears!

Love you,
mechtild at 2008-08-08 02:18 (UTC) (Link)
Oh, Julchen, it really is a perfect poem of young Frodo, isn't it? And this film scene is so lovely and so beautifully done. How STUPID of them not to include it! It so well fleshes out the positive picture of film Frodo *before* he starts to fall apart on the Quest, and in about a minute! The wagon scene with Gandalf does that I guess, and the party scene, but this scene shows Frodo not only as Bilbo's heir, but Bilbo's peer, his friend, in spite of the age difference. It gives a look at the Frodo who was able to take over hosting Bilbo's party in the book.

Julchen, I am going away for the weekend tomorrow morning. I wanted you to know in case you post another comment and I don't answer. Ta ta for now!
julchen11 at 2008-08-08 04:56 (UTC) (Link)
There are so many scenes I missed in the films *sigh* but this one is just gorgeous as well as the wagon scene.

Have a wonderful weekend, mechtild, with lots of fun, sun and joy!

I'll stroll through your journal for the next days so you'll see me when you're back.
(Anonymous) at 2008-08-09 18:21 (UTC) (Link)
dear Julchen: i have to say that i love these caps, this scene...well, ok, I LOVE the films. Even when they do things i DON"T like, they do them in a most visually pleasing manner.

In writing these LOTR poems, of course i like most all of them. But I do have my favorites, ones in which the 'spirit' of the character was felt most strongly. This was one of those sort. Everytime i revisit it, i feel beloved. I think that is because i *feel* love myself. It's a mater of the giving being as great as the 'getting', i imagine.

julchen11 at 2008-08-09 23:03 (UTC) (Link)
"I think that is because i *feel* love myself. It's a mater of the giving being as great as the 'getting', i imagine."

I can sooo feel this love, my dear. Between the lines your heart is beating, your soul is dancing... as well as mine.

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