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NF-Lee's Gildor and Frodo

Shelob’s Lair Pt. 8 ~ Gollum makes his plea (#8 of 9).

Posted on 2007.08.10 at 07:23
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Since these caps merely continue from the previous set, so there is no additional commentary. The continuation of the book scene (Sam and Gollum's fight in the Pass) follows the caps.



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Film Scene:


Frodo, at Gollum’s plea, relents and gets up. As he walks away he stops and turns to Gollum.

Frodo: I have to destroy It, Sméagol. I have to destroy It for both our sakes. (Frodo begins to walk on.)

Gollum: (At first looking at Frodo with understanding, then with fury.) No!


Gollum springs at Frodo from behind, knocking him over. They struggle and Gollum has tumbles over the cliff.













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Book scene, cont’d, from Shelob’s Tunnel, TTT.


‘Got him!’ hissed Gollum in his ear. ‘At last, my precious, we’ve got him, yes, the nasty hobbit. We takes this one. She’ll get the other. O yes, Shelob will get him, not Sméagol: he promised; he won’t hurt Master at all. But he’s got you, you nasty filthy little sneak!’ He spat on Sam’s neck.

Fury at the treachery, and desperation at the delay when his master was in deadly peril, gave to Sam a sudden violence and strength that was far beyond anything that Gollum had expected from this slow stupid hobbit, as he thought him. Not Gollum himself could have twisted more quickly and more fiercely. His hold on Sam’s mouth slipped, and Sam ducked and lunged forward again, trying to tear away from the grip on his neck. His sword was still in his hand, and on his left arm, hanging by its thong, was Faramir’s staff. Desperately he tried to turn and stab his enemy. But Gollum was too quick. His long right arm shot out, and he grabbed Sam’s wrist: his fingers were like a vice; slowly and relentlessly he bent the hand down and forward, till with a cry of pain Sam released the sword and it fell to the ground; and all the while Gollum’s other hand was tightening on Sam’s throat.

Then Sam played his last trick. With all his strength he pulled away and got his feet firmly planted; then suddenly he drove his legs against the ground and with his whole force hurled himself backwards.

Not expecting even this simple trick from Sam, Gollum fell over with Sam on top, and he received the weight of the sturdy hobbit in his stomach. A sharp hiss came out of him, and for a second his hand upon Sam’s throat loosened; but his fingers still gripped the sword-hand. Sam tore himself forward and away, and stood up, and then quickly he wheeled away to his right, pivoted on the wrist held by Gollum. Laying hold of the staff with his left hand, Sam swung it up, and down it came with a whistling crack on Gollum’s outstretched arm, just below the elbow.

With a squeal Gollum let go. Then Sam waded in; not waiting to change the staff from left to right as he dealt another savage blow. Quick as a snake Gollum slithered aside, and the stroke aimed at his head fell across his back. The staff cracked and broke. That was enough for him. Grabbing from behind was an old game of his, and seldom had he failed in it. But this time, misled by spite, he had make the mistake of speaking and gloating before he had both hands on his victim’s neck. Everything had gone wrong with his beautiful plan, since that horrible light had so unexpectedly appeared in the darkness. And now he was face to face with a furious enemy, little less than his own size. This fight was not for him.




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Entries in the Shelob's Lair series:



~ Pt. 1: Entering the tunnel.


~ Pt. 2: Frodo is betrayed.


~ Pt. 3: Shelob perceived, plus jan-u-wine’s “That Which Waits”.


~ Pt. 4: The Star-glass.


~ Pt. 5: Shelob attacks.


~ Pt. 6: Gollum taunts Frodo.


~ Pt. 7: Frodo attacked by Gollum.


~ Pt. 8: Gollum makes his plea.


~ Pt. 9: Frodo resolves to go forward, plus jan-u-wine’s “The Web-ring”.





Tables of Links:



~ Frodo and Elijah screencaps Main Page.



~ Mechtild


Comments:


verangel
verangel at 2007-08-11 03:34 (UTC) (Link)
I am not commenting on words here...but for the moment itself in the movie. This was one of the strangest feelings of dislike for me out of the whole 3 movies. It has stuck with me. The face of Frodo...Elijah changed so much to me here. It has nothing to do with showing anger, because he did that from the cave on and I didn't feel it until this specific scene. I think they did this in a retake and he had aged some.. his face looked so different from the cave to here and just didn't seem to fit. The scenes after seemed to go back to the ealier Elijah and flowed better. It may seem trivial. But there just seemed to be something that didn't flow in the face. OK...I know again it seems weird but I really felt off in this moment because of it.
Its the only scene that I noticed age cuts so bluntly...except for maybe when he was giving the ring to the ringwraith in TTT at the end. That was a retake older Elijah in that moment also. You can definity see the change from him walking bewildered and so young looking and then holding the ring up is a different film splice in that moment.
It is only my perspective and nothing big.
These were wonderful moments all in all.
hugs. v
Mechtild
mechtild at 2007-08-11 03:53 (UTC) (Link)
Thanks, Verangel, for stopping in. Well, you can tell I really enjoyed this sequence or I wouldn't have screencapped it as thoroughly.

I've seen behind-the-scenes shots of Elijah working on this scene with Andy Serkis, and had assumed it was shot during the period of principle photography (Oct. 1999-Dec. 2000). But I guess the fight scene could have been shot years after the main shoot, since pick-ups were still being shot in 2003. I can't really tell, I confess. I know that Frodo's coverage for the Stairs of Cirith Ungol was shot a year after Sam's (in 2000 instead of 1999), but I really can't tell the difference between his face in the Stairs scene and at Minas Morgul. Or when I think of Frodo's final desk scene, which was the very last scene shot at the end of pick-ups (when Frodo looks up at Sam and says of the Red Book, "There's room for a little more"), I can't see that he looks any older than he did in the Emyn Muil or watching Gollum diving from the ledge at Henneth Annun. Do you think he and Andy filmed the fight scene during a later pick-up, then?
verangel
verangel at 2007-08-11 04:21 (UTC) (Link)
yes. I think maybe they did this is a "pick up". Its the look that is different..the way the scene changes in colors. It was off to me. From the time he fell out and then they focused on him fighting Gollum to the end of this it seemed a different Frodo. Then they went bact to him on the passage and his face seemed more like the anguished young face you saw in the Shelob caves. It could have been Elijah trying to work it. But they did have pickups and I think this could have been one.
I could tell that last scene of his. He did look different then. But it worked more because he was supposed to be older then..and so tired and sickly. Of course then you go to the lovely shot of Frodo with Bilbo in the carriage and he looked so amazingly young to me and innocent. I think that is what I saw missing in the pickups..his innocence...because he had really started to mature and grow in this experience and you could see it in subtle ways.
All in all, its still brilliant. It was just that one piece where he is looking down at Gollum and then backs away...
"Frodo: I have to destroy It, Sméagol. I have to destroy It for both our sakes. (Frodo begins to walk on.)"

hugs..v
ps..I have to save all of this because it in itself is a wonderful book and bridge between the book and the movies.
Mechtild
mechtild at 2007-08-11 15:01 (UTC) (Link)
One day, and I've said this before, I hope they will print a log of the shoot, so that we nutty fans and film-scholars can read exactly when this or that shot was filmed. Wouldn't that be great? I'd love then to go through the whole film, in order of shooting, to see how Frodo (and the others!) changed over the years of shooting footage, and developed in their performing skills.

If you are saving these, I am hoping you have been noticing the link at the very bottom of each post that says "all screencaps". That will take you to a page of master links, which then open up the pages of screencaps according to the three films, behind the scenes, etc. I found it to be a big help once I had made so many sets of caps.

~ M
frodosweetstuff
frodosweetstuff at 2007-08-11 13:58 (UTC) (Link)
*amazed* He is such a great actor. Even without knowing the book you would be able to understand what is happening in this scene. :)

Thank you for the wonderful screencaps!
Mechtild
mechtild at 2007-08-11 15:02 (UTC) (Link)
You are welcome! I think this is a super scene, too. :)
Estë   (or ST for short)
este_tangletoes at 2007-08-13 12:51 (UTC) (Link)
Then Sam played his last trick. With all his strength he pulled away and got his feet firmly planted; then suddenly he drove his legs against the ground and with his whole force hurled himself backwards.

I can imagine the Professor romping about doing a ‘dummy-run’ to be assured that this could be done. :-)

Thank you Lass!

--Estë
Mechtild
mechtild at 2007-08-13 13:12 (UTC) (Link)
Estë, I'll bet you're right, at least mentally if he really wrote LotR nights after the family was in bed, with his typewriter on the spare bed with a chair pulled up to it. (No doubt an apocryphal story.) It's a great action scene, isn't it?
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