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NF-Lee's Gildor and Frodo

Ithilien: Sam sees the Oliphaunts, plus a poem by jan-u-wine….

Posted on 2007.05.02 at 22:48

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Estë   (or ST for short)
este_tangletoes at 2007-05-04 08:18 (UTC) (Link)
Gorgeous film-scene. Thank you so much Mechling! (It is much appreciated that you include the book-version too).

Not only do Frodo and Sam not get to enjoy the Coney stew – this is, iirc, the last we see of the tweed coat. Even though they had retrieved their back-packs.

The caps of Frodo and Sam enjoying the Oliphaunts are beautifully endearing.

Jan-u-wine’s poem touched me deeply. How does she do it?!

--Estë

P.S. The first cap got me thinking (yes even I do that on occasion :-D) The leaf brooches – are they all one size or are some of them Hobbit-size – I must check up on that one. I luuuuurv details.
Mechtild
mechtild at 2007-05-04 13:10 (UTC) (Link)
Thanks, Estë
. You are so kind as usual. But, yes, it’s one of Jan’s best simpler poems. Like “A Gardener’s Gift” (the one in the box of salt post), it tells reams through not that many words; just a few well-chosen images that really resonate.

That’s interesting about the brooch, whether they had sets of small ones. My guess is absolutely yes. The regular hobbit actors needed them, but so did their small scale doubles. It’s Kieran who’s being passed along blindfolded up at Henneth Annun (such a tubby tummy!), and the brooch is to scale on his much smaller costume. Also, there’s the scene in which Aragorn picks up Pippin’s brooch in TTT. When he picks it up, the brooch is to hobbit scale.

Aragorn’s hand picking up Pippin’s brooch (screencaps linked from “Darth screencapture”, my old source before I began capping myself. I must say, mine are so much better!):

http://lotr.darthscreencapture.com/TTT/D/36/_aragorn_11.html

http://lotr.darthscreencapture.com/TTT/D/36/_aragorn_11.html

Aragorn wearing his own brooch:

http://lotr.darthscreencapture.com/TTT/D/44/_aragorn_269.html


The tweed coat! Boo hoo! I never noticed the point at which it was no longer in the film, but you’re right: it’s Ithilien. No scene ever shows him taking it off of stowing it or getting rid of it.

Here’s a cap of Frodo at the Black Gate. He’s still wearing the coat, and it’s worn in all the Dead Marshes, including after his dunking:

http://lotr.darthscreencapture.com/TTT/D/40/_frodo_166.html

Maybe he was supposed to have stowed it in his pack? Ithilien was supposed to be quite balmy, spring showing itself as they looked around (in the book).

I checked the RotK scenes set in Ithilien, after they would have been released from Faramir, and after Osgiliath, but he is not wearing his coat in those, either.

*sniffles for the beautiful tweed coat*
Mechtild
mechtild at 2007-05-04 13:16 (UTC) (Link)
I've found the last scene they wear their coats, both Sam and Frodo; it's a scene I'm not capping, the one in which they first are walking in Ithilien and Gollum is sporting in the stream. They have their little tiff there about the Ring. They both are wearing their coats:

http://lotr.darthscreencapture.com/TTT/D/33/_samwise_103.html

But by the time they are in the Conies scene, both their coats have vanished. Maybe they took them off in the interim to have it out, man to man, with a little fisticuffs? Just kidding. I should imagine it truly was hot, the writers knew Ithilien was supposed to be more mild, so they let them shed the coats for the duration.
Estë   (or ST for short)
este_tangletoes at 2007-05-07 06:56 (UTC) (Link)
Thank you Mechling! You are very generous with your time - I appreciate it very much.

--Estë
(Anonymous) at 2007-05-05 13:52 (UTC) (Link)

doin' it.....

smoke and mirrors, of course, dear Este!

Actually, I have an especial love of Pack. E. Derms myself. I think you might enjoy even more *this* one:

http://lotrscrapbook.bookloaf.net/poetry/poems/jan/januwine_mumak.html

for the sake of equality, an "oliphaunt" from Sam's POV.

I'm very grateful you enjoyed!jan
Estë   (or ST for short)
este_tangletoes at 2007-05-07 12:10 (UTC) (Link)

Re: doin' it.....

That was positively beautiful in all its down-to-earth-ness!

Thank you so much Jan, you really are a treasure.

--Estë
(Anonymous) at 2007-05-07 13:41 (UTC) (Link)

treasure.........

thank you, Este, but I must defer to the dear Professor, *our* true treasure. The rest of us are but pirates who *borrow* the gems of his brilliance.

(lest that sound like I can't take a compliment.....ummmmmm....well, yes, I *can*, and thank you very much!)

j
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