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NF-Lee's Gildor and Frodo

Eagles ~ Frodo Wakes in Ithilien, plus jan-u-wine's 'There and Back....Again'

Posted on 2006.09.30 at 11:19


aprilkat at 2006-10-01 00:32 (UTC) (Link)
Lovely combination of screencaps and poetry once again.

The pain and confusion of survival are very well described - bravest thing he ever did, indeed.

He looks like a martyred saint with the Eagles.
mechtild at 2006-10-01 01:15 (UTC) (Link)
He looks like a martyred saint with the Eagles.

He does, but a martyr bound for paradise. No one deserved it more. :)
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mechtild at 2006-10-01 18:28 (UTC) (Link)
[sorry; I had to re-enter these - I messed up something in Photobucket!]

Oh, the Titian is especially good (I love that painting, by the way).

I looked through my own art files and thought this detail from Guerin's "Iris and Morpheus" that hangs in the Hermitage might do nicely for Frodo's "died and gone to heaven" look.... (snicker)

mechtild at 2006-10-01 18:29 (UTC) (Link)
Seriously, though, Whiteling, if all of LotR is full of subliminal or explicit references to the history of art, this scene has got its share.

Jan-u-wine and I were talking about how the image of Gandalf descending on the back of Gwaihir, peering intently below, reminded us of some famous painting.

Here he is:

After some online gallery-browsing, we agreed that it reminded us of this image from the Sistine Ceiling, the panel of God creating the sea and land:

P.S. I loved what you said about Jan's poetry, that it "touches the ear of your heart." That was so beautiful.

~ Mechtild
whiteling at 2006-10-01 20:01 (UTC) (Link)
Yes, I absolutely agree!
Gandalf's look on Gwaihir in this scene also reminds me a bit of the beautiful sculpture of the Creator at the Freiburger Cathedral, from about 1350:

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(Sorry, I couldn't put my first comment back in its original place)
mechtild at 2006-10-01 20:30 (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, the only thing I could do to get it back in place would be take the other comments out. I didn't dare after the mess I'd already made. It's just you and me, anyway. We can figure it out.

The sculpture you linked is very beautiful. It that done in wood? What gorgeous work they did in the 14th century! And that was a pretty dreadful one, wasn't it? Wasn't the Black Death in that century, and the huge turmoil in the church because of the split papacy (Rome and Avignon), plus lots of persecutions? I can't remember now.
whiteling at 2006-10-01 20:56 (UTC) (Link)
Ooops, now it was my turn to mess up... the sculpture above isn't from Freiburg. It's a wooden Christ figure, dating from 1430 and is owned by the diocesan museum Freising (near Munich). Sorry, the page I got it from is slightly confusing.
The 14th century must have been a very difficult decade to live in. Black Death harvested terribly from 1348 on, and there were many persecutions, mainly horrible pogroms. Not sure about the church turmoil, though. I think, you are right, but I always mix that up with the Investiture Conflict earlier.
mechtild at 2006-10-01 22:00 (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, the multiple papacy was during the 14th century. It didn't just make a mess of polity (since governments were heavily identified with church bodies, France backing Avignon, of course), it made for more turmoil and paranoia on top of what was happening because of the Black Death. People had few steady authorities to focus on, with local governments in disarray (or dead), trade and agriculture and everything disrupted or brought to a standstill because of the massive loss of people. That the church was in a mess, too, only made it more chaotic, with factions persecuting each other and people already suffering terribly.

Whenever I think we live in a particularly bleak time, I think back to times like that.
whiteling at 2006-10-01 19:33 (UTC) (Link)
He does, but a martyr bound for paradise.

*sob* Oh yes. --- This scene always knocks me off my feet. Frodo's martyred face, the tenderness of Gwaihir's grip, the music...

Just a couple of Frodo's relatives in art history, for comparison...

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Left: St. Sebastian by Perugino, 1493; right: Maria Assunta by Tiziano, 1516

Needless to say that Frodo is the prettiest though.

Thank you, Mechtild for this whole series, a true labour of love.

And an other cordially thank-you to Jan-u-wine for her poetry which
touches the ear of my heart.

*Hugs you both*
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