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NF-Lee's Gildor and Frodo

Art Travesty: Frodo in 'Faun and Bacchante', by Bouguereau....

Posted on 2006.07.14 at 20:22

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Whiteling
whiteling at 2006-07-15 08:23 (UTC) (Link)
Welcome back, Mechtild! Lovely new manip - I love the way you made Frodo look happy!
And I see, Frodo has used your absence for a little workout in the fitness room at Tol Eressea. ;-)

In terms of the 19th century, the symbolism of this painting is rather bold.
What about the Faun's staff with its mounted pine cone and the amphora? And then the facial expression of B's original Faun... oh lala, this guy knows how to handle his ladies.
Mechtild
mechtild at 2006-07-15 13:53 (UTC) (Link)
Yes, Frodo has been pumping iron in the gardens of BEWTE. And those lasses have been feeding him up nicely. Actually, when I first saw and made this, I thought what a perfect Harem illo it would make. Too bad one can't post images with naked breasts (or butts) in the site.

But you intrigue me, Whiteling. What is the symbolic significance of the amphora? I figured it just implied they were at the usual drunken orgies Bacchus was supposed to host. Do you mean its shape? Or something else? I don't know what the festive pine-cone topped staff is supposed to signify other that fertility (pinecones-lots of seeds; staff-long projectile). But I don't know why a Bacchante be toting this particular sort of staff around, since Bacchus was not particularly a fertility god. Did she carry it to beat off fauns? She could give him a good clonk with that cone.

Or is it a sex toy...? That would make more sense at a Bacchanalia. *snort*

Yes, the face on the original faun was quite Casanova-ish. ;)
Whiteling
whiteling at 2006-07-15 15:42 (UTC) (Link)
What is the symbolic significance of the amphora? I figured it just implied they were at the usual drunken orgies Bacchus was supposed to host. Do you mean its shape? Or something else? I don't know what the festive pine-cone topped staff is supposed to signify other that fertility (pinecones-lots of seeds; staff-long projectile). But I don't know why a Bacchante be toting this particular sort of staff around, since Bacchus was not particularly a fertility god.

Well, at first I thought of the male/female symbolism in the broadest archetypical sense - staff and vessel, lingam and yoni...you know; and the whole thing with a nice twist, as he is holding the yoni part, and she would carry the lingam thingy (read: both are united already).
Interestingly, I found following on a German art page:
"The pine cone is a symbol for richness, fertility and carnal love (therefore, it is a symbol for the phallus as well). A pine cone crowns the upper end of a staff called Thyrsos. It is said, that the thyrsos comes from an umbellifer ("Nartex", sorry couldn't find its English name) which was worn by the women at the Bacchanalias. The thyrsos is an old symbol of fertility."

I couldn't find any specific symbolic meaning of the amphora though, but to me it is generally the representative of the female vessel.

Yes, too bad such pics aren't allowed at KD! Hm. You could manip a VERY large amphora in front of her butt. :-D

Mechtild
mechtild at 2006-07-15 17:52 (UTC) (Link)
That was so cool, Whiteling! I should consult you everytime before I post a new manip. I loved that they had the two symbols, but reversed (he holding the female symbol, she the male). For isn't that very true for lovers? That one "holds" the body/sexuality/passionate devotion of the other?

The note on the pine cone blew me away. Actually brought to Bacchanalias! Well, wasn't Bouguereau right on the money. I suppose it does have a very phallic look, or it wouldn't have suggested a sex toy.

As for the bacchante's butt, I could paint in the back of a thong, which would mean she wasn't technically naked, and draw a sequined pastie on her nipple, but somehow I think it would take away from the overall elevated tone of the manip. ;)
Mechtild
mechtild at 2006-07-15 18:08 (UTC) (Link)
I Googled up a few sites on Dionysus. They all mentioned the pine-cone-tipped staff, interpreting it variously, but always associating it with his role as god of growth and fertility. (I guess the "god of wine" role is the opener: first he gets worshippers loosened up with the wine, then they move on to the fertility.)

Here's a quote that took the fertility idea and extended it to a non-generative interpretation:

His phallic staff (thyrsus) crowned by a pine cone represents the human faculties of wisdom and inspiration.

I always knew there was more to Muse Frodo than a roll in the hay. :)
Whiteling
whiteling at 2006-07-15 19:52 (UTC) (Link)
Yes, that is all such fascinating staff, errr, stuff, isn't it? ;-)

I always knew there was more to Muse Frodo than a roll in the hay. :)
Amen to that!! --- Now, where do we get those thyrsus sticks for the Harem?
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