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NF-Lee's Gildor and Frodo

BBM Screencaps ~ Part III: On 'Face to Face'; A kiss with Alma....

Posted on 2006.05.01 at 10:34

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casey
casey28 at 2006-05-01 22:53 (UTC) (Link)
I just watched the scene that you screencapped of Ennis and Alma. What's really interesting is that the scene goes from Ennis flipping Alma over, to the next scene, with Jack riding the bull. I imagine that it's Jack who Ennis is imagining when he "takes" his wife, and seeing Jack in the next scene, at the rodeo, reinforces that.

But, when it comes to that summer tending the sheep on Brokeback, I tend to think the memory is a literal one That is, Ennis, in their first summer, had not been able to take Jack into his arms, face to face.

I agree that the memory was a literal one, back in the summer of 1963. It showed how Ennis was struggling against his nature. And on some level, that struggle within himself remained, even long after he was ready to "physically" face Jack.

Whether the kiss and hug at the reunion was their first one of not, is not spelled out either way in the book, so i'm sure that either could be valid.

What remains for me is that they fell in love that first summer. That "Brokeback got us good." Whether they kissed or not, whether they embraced face to face or not, the love was there. The dozy embrace is, in a sense, a symbol of that love. That they could have such a deep sense of intimacy, without sex, and without embracing face to face, showed the power of what they had.

Thing is, too, that Ennis made love to his wife, and kissed her, but wasn't "in love' with her. So, those acts by themselves, didn't define what she meant to him. Likewise, I feel that Jack and Ennis were in love, back in '63, and I don't limit that definition to how that love found expression; whether it be sex, kissing, dozy embrace, etc. :)











Mechtild
mechtild at 2006-05-02 01:15 (UTC) (Link)
What remains for me is that they fell in love that first summer. That "Brokeback got us good." Whether they kissed or not, whether they embraced face to face or not, the love was there. The dozy embrace is, in a sense, a symbol of that love. That they could have such a deep sense of intimacy, without sex, and without embracing face to face, showed the power of what they had.

I think that is right, Casey. I want to say again how much I've profited by your remarks. I wasn't just fooling around quoting what you said. What you wrote really helped jog me, helping me get my own impressions in better focus. Thanks so much!
casey
casey28 at 2006-05-02 04:47 (UTC) (Link)
Thank you for writing such interesting posts. I usually don't give such long replies (and I'm going to be more brief), what you wrote gave me a lot to think about as well.
Mechtild
mechtild at 2006-05-02 14:21 (UTC) (Link)
And I don't usually write such long entries! But BBM really struck something in me, and, this really isn't a lot when I think of the posts I've written discussing LotR on the messageboards. I have written over two thousand posts between the two I visited for a year and a half, and at least half of them were "real" posts, serious ones, not one-liners. I think when a work of art is really good, and touches a person deeply, and if that person is of a thoughtful turn of mind, she can't help blabbing about it at length. *grin*
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