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NF-Lee's Gildor and Frodo

A New Art Travesty ~ Frodo and the Enamoured Woman....

Posted on 2006.03.25 at 18:54


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mechtild at 2006-03-26 03:51 (UTC) (Link)
Thank you, Mews. It was not that difficult once I had found a good match for the face. After that, every "blend brush" and "clone brush," and "color" and "sharpen" and "contrast" variation was a pleasure to work on.

Tell me, Mews, do such images actively repell fans of slash-Frodo? I have found, so far, that it is nearly impossible (but for two or three, one of them terribly, terribly sappy) to find male-male paintings that don't portray the men as heavily muscled and herky, a look I don't picture for Frodo or for anyone he would possibly have been wrapped up with in an erotic relationship.

I think, if I remember properly, you have a series of erotic/romantic fics starring Frodo with Eomer, fics that are not meant to be bawdy spoofs, but serious. Have I mixed you up with someone else? If so, forgive me. But, if you do feature Frodo with Eomer, you will know there is little or no classical art that can be used to manip this pairing, herky-muscle guys or not. Even paintings that depict a Ganymede with Zeus, or a Hylas with Hercules show a youth the size of a human teenager with a grown man. Illustrations for humans with hobbit lovers would require real manipping! If you find a good source painting, or combination of paintings, let me know. I might try to work on it, if it looks doable.
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mechtild at 2006-03-26 04:46 (UTC) (Link)
I have not heard the name of Lorie45 at all, so I am sure I was reading a summary of a story of yours. We weren't on each other's f-lists then, so maybe it had been posted on hobbit_smut or Middle-earth News. I didn't read it, but the blurb said it was a serious story, not a comedy.

Thanks for answering about how the manip might or might not repel a slash reader. I read slash but I am writing a het story. I have readers who read both, too. I have a few readers who read and write only slash, except for that story. So I know there is a wide range of tastes. But, lurking in the LJ's of people who really, really love slash, I have got the impression that even the idea of sex between a male and a female -- never mind a fic portraying a relationship -- is abhorrent to some people. I tend to forget that, since I am fond of the pairing. As a maker of manips from art, I suppose I have reason to be content since so much art -- even when painted by painters who were gay -- portrays men and women as lovers.

Simeon Solomon did a couple of paintings that might do for same-sex manips, but his style is so diffuse, it would be difficult to blend in an image that came from a photograph. There are a few other paintings I can think of that portray two males together in poses that could be seen as erotic, who are built like boys or youths, not body-builders.
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mechtild at 2006-03-26 18:12 (UTC) (Link)
(Hi, just got back from mass.)

That sounds like a compelling, depth story.

It was my attempt to write a kind of healing for Frodo, and it did help me do that.

I like it when I sense that a fic means a lot to an author personally. It's one of the opportunities writing fanfics seems to offer: expressing what really matters to one at a deep level (painful and/or joyful), through the Tolkien story and characters.
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mechtild at 2006-03-26 19:33 (UTC) (Link)
What a thrill when the writerly juices start to flow - especially after a drought.

*Mechtild holds out her hand, checking for a few sprinkles...*
mechtild at 2006-03-26 06:17 (UTC) (Link)
Mews, I took out my long reply,. You still will have it on your notification of reply email, but after I posted it, I thought it sounded awfully presuming, especially since I never had read your fic.

I apologize. :)
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mechtild at 2006-03-26 15:17 (UTC) (Link)
Oh, thank you, Mews. When I write, I am not always sure how my "attitude" comes across, since there are no emoticons to help express what a voice and hand gestures and facial expressions would. When I read back over it, I worried that it sounded, I don't, critical in a back-handed sort of way, which I didn't mean.

Thanks for reassuring me
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mechtild at 2006-03-26 18:27 (UTC) (Link)
Aprilkat and I have talked about that very thing sometimes, and how it can be difficult to interpret things we write, since we can't see the face of the person we're talking to.

When I first came onto the messageboards (now over two years ago), I remember scratching my head over the use of all the smilies. Were posters silly or something? But then a very wise discusser of LotR told me, the newbie, that the use of smilies did just what we have been talking about: they helped express the writer's emotional tone in posts to readers who otherwise could not be expected to know their POV. A smiley injected at the end of a critical comment could signal to the intended reader, "I am differing with you in a friendly manner, I am not trying to bait you." When someone used a rolleyes or a winky face, they made clear they were speaking ironically. I saw her point at once and noticed from then on what a difference their use made in online discussion. Feelings were hurt unnecessarily by neglecting their use, especially on a messageboard like that -- with a gazillion posters most of whom did not "know" each other, and where the argumentation could become very passionate.

But you are right in saying that we two seem to have posted back and forth enough to get a sense for each other's approach. *smooches you back*
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