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NF-Lee's Gildor and Frodo

Fireside Scene Pt. I... Frodo receives the envelope containing the Ring....

Posted on 2006.02.11 at 17:45
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Estë (este_tangletoes) commented a few posts ago that she really had liked my remarks about "fireside Frodo" holding the envelope (back in the "Harem" thread at K-D), the envelope into which Gandalf had just slipped the Ring, sealing it with molten wax....

I can't remember what I said back in the thread, but I remembered that shot, with its red-glowing beauty. Estë has since sent a copy of the shot to me, which I have posted below.

Now that I have capped this scene, I see that this very famous image does not actually appear in the theatrical release. I suspect it is an outtake, used as a publicity still for the film. The lighting is extremely different, too, much ruddier. It was this lighting I was thinking of when I wrote my own "before the fire" chapter, in my fic. The lighting colour in the film scene is gold, not red. Perhaps they tweaked the publicity still to make it more strikingly "fire-like." I sure do adore this still, though. If anyone finds a bigger image of it, I would love to have it. This is the largest I've found:

~ Frodo holding the envelope in FotR (not actually a screencap from the film):

Estë's remark inspired me, however, and I popped in my DVD to capture some images. Again, it pained me to toss out 2/3's of the frames, but here is a sequence worth poring over.

I have said it before but I will repeat it. These FotR fireside scenes between Gandalf and Frodo are so good they speak of cinematic genius. Even before I fell in love with Frodo (in the "falling in love" sense), I recognized these scenes for the gems they were.

In the series of frames below, Frodo has just heard Gandalf's hasty announcement that the Ring is his, left to him by the abruptly departed Bilbo. The Ring's precise nature is not yet known to either of them, but, already, Gandalf has his suspicions.

Frodo comes into this scene still all a-muddle: missing his uncle, a bit overwhelmed at having been left in the lurch to see to the party (and his life). And here is Gandalf, rushing him through the reception of the mysterious Ring that has been left in his keeping. Frodo may not know anything, in the cognitive sense, but, clearly, he already senses that Someting is Afoot -- something of moment -- something that will require his courage.

In the sequence below, Gandalf has just tucked the Ring into an envelope, handing it to Frodo. My cap selection didn't capture it, but, just before Frodo's hand touches the envelope, the light in the room darkens. A mili-moment later, it comes back.

Is it just the wavering firelight, or a creative decision on the part of the filmmakers, full of portent, however subtle....?

Heavens, but I love these caps.

Thanks again to Estë for reminding me of this sequence, that I might post it here.

~ Frodo receives the Ring from Gandalf in the first Fireside Scene from FotR:

Click HERE for table of Frodo and Elijah Wood Screencaps.

~ Mechtild


shirebound at 2006-02-12 00:37 (UTC) (Link)
That scene is even *more* poignant and powerful when seen this way.
mechtild at 2006-02-12 00:55 (UTC) (Link)
Yes, that is one of the delights of screencaps. One can see and mull over every moment.
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mechtild at 2006-02-12 14:41 (UTC) (Link)
Stop, "Botticelli's angels." *guilty grin*

Yes, he is utterly lovely. And the light is sublime ("Frodo by firelight"). And he looks so fine-spirited and resolved (in-spite-of-misgivings) in these shots.

How can one not love him?
frodosweetstuff at 2006-02-12 14:20 (UTC) (Link)
Wow, I love how Frodo's expression goes from reluctant to take the ring to accepting his task.

Beautiful screencaps, thank you!
mechtild at 2006-02-12 14:43 (UTC) (Link)
I love how Frodo's expression goes from reluctant to take the ring to accepting his task.

Yeah, I never really picked up that much nuance watching the actual sequence. After all, Frodo doesn't yet know there will be any task. But he can tell from Gandalf's behaviour that something is up with it.

Sharp lad. Well, "best hobbit in all the Shire," and all that.
frodosweetstuff at 2006-02-14 20:43 (UTC) (Link)
Isn't that the beauty of the films and of Elijah's acting - that you feel it instinctively that there is a depth to it and that closer analysis, for instance with screencaps, shows you how they did it. *happy*
mechtild at 2006-02-14 22:06 (UTC) (Link)
All the more does his work in this scene impress me - the scene I think one of the best in the films - because, from the DVD extras, it looks as though he acted so much of it by himself, against blue screen. Maybe they had Ian McKellen act Gandalf over the tall scale double's shoulder.

But in the excellent take of him advancing towards the camera, looking about and thinking hard, saying, "All right, we'll put it away -- no one knows it's here, do they Gandalf?", he is being shot all by himself against blue screen, just doing the whole thing -- the lines, the walk, hitting his mark -- from remembered rehearsal and his own imaginative identification. But, in the finished sequence, edited in with Gandalf and the interior of Bag End, the sequence is COMPLETELY convincing.
frodosweetstuff at 2006-02-19 15:45 (UTC) (Link)
Your comment really shows me that I have to watch the extras again. I have forgotten so much. *looks forward to re-discovering all those great insights*

pearlette at 2006-02-12 21:41 (UTC) (Link)
He really is the most gorgeous creature ...

mechtild at 2006-02-12 22:39 (UTC) (Link)
"He looks like one of Botticelli's angels."
"He turns into this mysterious, angelic, glorious beauty."
"He really is the most gorgeous creature ..."

I would worry about us being redundant if it weren't such a pleasure to be inspired to say such things. Over and over.
Estë   (or ST for short)
este_tangletoes at 2006-02-13 10:40 (UTC) (Link)
Thank you Mechtild for capping this sequence. He really is The Prince of the Shire.


Come to me in my dreams, and then
By day I shall be well again.
For then the night will more than pay
The hopeless longing of the day.

Matthew Arnold (1822 1888)

mechtild at 2006-02-13 13:47 (UTC) (Link)
Oooo, "Prince of the Shire."

We'll have to had that to his list of epithets, quoted just above your comment, things that people have said in this entry alone.

A wonderfully apt excerpt from Arnold, too, Estë. I only wish he came to me in my dreams more often these days. *sigh*

"Dark have been my dreams of late."

(Loved the way Bernard Hill said that.)

~ Mechtild

P.S. Thanks again so much for asking about this sequence.
Estë   (or ST for short)
este_tangletoes at 2006-02-13 14:23 (UTC) (Link)
I wish that Frodo comes to your dreams.

"Dark have been my dreams of late."

The above quote was beautifully said by Bernard Hill. I only wish that it did not apply to you.

mechtild at 2006-02-13 16:10 (UTC) (Link)
Thank you, Estë, you get a smooch from the Best Hobbit in the Shire for that.

(And one from Mechtild.)
notabluemaia at 2006-02-24 19:27 (UTC) (Link)
Your screen caps and Frodo Art Travesties are lovely - thank you. I followed the link from M-e News and enjoyed the photo/art manips so very much that I wanted to be sure to thank you, and then discover these glorious film caps, too. Again - thank you.

When I first saw Fellowship, the 'artwork' on every frame, with the color adjustments, the 'feathering', the special effects, convinced me that PJ had made a film *meant* to be capped, with attention to every detail in every frame. Add to that Elijah's exquisite form and ability - sheer perfection, in every way. *waxes euphoric* Such nuance...
mechtild at 2006-02-24 21:21 (UTC) (Link)
Why, thank you, Notabluemaia. I know some of your manips, too. Wendy of K-D often posted beautiful painterly portraits you had made from Elijah Wood images.

If you know how to use the "tags" in the LJ's, you can find all the screencaps, either "frodo screencaps" or "elijah wood screencaps." Otherwise, I made a table of links for them a week or two ago, which I keep posted in my "Links" list, on the left-hand margin of my LJ entry page.

Otherwise, here's a copy of the link to that page. There are some very nice ones of Elijah Wood, if you haven't already seen them. I did shots from "Flipper" and "Ridiculous Thoughts," because I fancy that I can see young 'tweenaged film-Frodo in them. They are so angsty and gorgeous.


Again, thanks so much for commenting. I hadn't realised M-E News had even posted the link! I only asked about it this morning, just wondering if they (the manips) were the sorts of things they might wish to make available. I had thought they featured only fully original art.

Maybe I will offer the table of screencap links, too...?
notabluemaia at 2006-02-24 21:35 (UTC) (Link)
Thank you - I found the table of links and took a peek. Gorgeous caps, and your commentary looks very interesting, too. It is a special treat to see the costumed caps that didn't actually make it into the films, and the caps from the trailer that show Frodo against the black background are achingly beautiful.

Perhaps you would not mind if I friend your lj so as not to miss further manips or caps? (I am harmless, and in fact, we share a number of dear mutual friends from KD and here on lj who might vouch for my general good humor). Thank you for your kind words about my manips. Playing around with those was the very start of my rediscovery of a love for drawing, which I had set aside decades ago. I still love the manips, but have no great skill with them, though there were several of Frodo that were a special pleasure to make. (oh, my yes!) As well you must know!
mechtild at 2006-02-24 21:56 (UTC) (Link)
Playing around with those was the very start of my rediscovery of a love for drawing, which I had set aside decades ago. I still love the manips, but have no great skill with them, though there were several of Frodo that were a special pleasure to make. (oh, my yes!) As well you must know!

Getting involved in this fandom has brought out the creativity - new or dormant - of so many people, don't you think?

Yes, of course, you may friend me. :) I actually recognize your name from LJ comments, too, now that I have been using it. I am sure I have seen your posts in chapter comments for stories by people I met through the K-D Frodo's Harem thread - I am thinking particularly of stories by Igraine (Aisling) and Mariole.

It is a special treat to see the costumed caps that didn't actually make it into the films, and the caps from the trailer that show Frodo against the black background are achingly beautiful.

I love those Lorien shots, too, both the natural colour and the orchid-purple series. They only appeared in the trailers. I had always wondered where the heck those images had came from!

notabluemaia at 2006-02-24 22:18 (UTC) (Link)
Perhaps sometime we will have an opportunity to see more of the out takes; I hope so. PJ's perfectionism might prevent the release of 'unfinished' parts, but I, for one, would love to see ever scrap of film of Frodo, especially, and all the Shire. Well, actually, I'd like to see any of *all* of LotR that might have remained on the cutting room floor.

I think that the scene about which I am most curious is the famous shot of the Travellers cloaked in beautiful garments that are not shown in the films. They are mentioned in one of the books about the films (I forget which) - Frodo's a beautiful grey velvet with a pattern that was said to be especially beautiful with Elijah's coloring. *sigh*

Yes, I have been in the 'fandom' for many years, and remember Council of Elrond before KD. But I generally am a quiet sort, and was even more so then (*lurker*); the writing and stimulation to creativity from LotR's great mythology and themes (which I too have noted often in essays on my own lj) have introduced me to many friends who have become quite real.
mechtild at 2006-02-24 23:07 (UTC) (Link)
Ah, yes! That costume for the return of the "Travellers"! The only shots I've found are ones of the costume pieces, but without Frodo in them (costume plates from the RotK extras), and the bit that's in a documentary of the four hobbits posing and horsing around while wearing them. Frodo and Sam are wearing the Elvish velvets, Merry and Pippin are in their Rohirric and Gondorian livery respectively. It's an engaging bit of film, but quite blurry and far away and quite inadequate for showing off those costumes.

Frodo's clothes, even the bit that can be glimpsed when Elijah Wood gets up from his crouch, are simply ravishing. They look like costume pieces that it would have been intensely pleasurable to wear, too. We spent an awful lot of bandwidth in Frodo threads swooning over those clothes and over Frodo wearing them ... imagining how they felt ... you may be sure!

So, you go back to the Council of Elrond! I have heard about those golden, "glory days." I only began to really participate in LotR internet fandom in November of 2003 (at Tolkien Online), and didn't get to K-D until the summer of 2004. It sounds like I missed an awful lot. *sniffle*

notabluemaia at 2006-02-24 23:20 (UTC) (Link)
It was lovely, and we were so thrilled at every hint of a new image. But it's no less fine, now, and there is yet more creativity to come, for that is what flows from LotR. Tolkien's 'Original Creator' working in creation, including his own, inspiring fics and pics and costuming and thoughtfulness and music and musicals and literature(not to mention an entire genre on the fantasy shelves)... the road goes ever on. May there always be new people coming into the fandom, long after you and I, to whom to pass the inspiration and the love.
mechtild at 2006-02-25 01:01 (UTC) (Link)
Beautifully said, Notabluemaia. It really does go "ever on."
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