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EW Screencaps, Ridiculous Thoughts, 'Alternate Take' ~ Part Five

Posted on 2006.02.01 at 00:46
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“Ridiculous Thoughts~Alternate Take,” Part Five....

I thought I was finished with this project when I got a Private Message at K-D from shelbyshire:

"Did you know there is another version of "Ridiculous Thoughts" on the Cranberries' STAR DVD," she asked.

No, I did not!

Well, she said, there was. And, it had even more Elijah Wood material on it than the "regular" one from the main playlist. Might I want to take a look at it?

Would I????

That's what I get for not watching the whole DVD! It turns out that there are "alternate takes" of many songs and "Ridiculous Thoughts" is one of them. These can only be found by selecting "Extra Features" in the opening menu -- which I had not done.

Thank you, Shelbyshire! Ten million kisses!

So. I watched this other version, and, immediately, I saw that I could have done my primary capping from this version, instead. EW not only has more footage, it appears in larger, more sustained sequences.

It has most but not all of the footage included in the "regular" version, some of it closer up and from slightly different angles. Woo hoo! (The version on the main play list does have EW footage not included in the "alternate" version, so I still needed to cap both.)

What is great about the alternate take is that it sets up the young man right from the beginning as the POV for the viewer's journey through the song. EW even has a couple of spoken lines before the song starts. He is slumped against the wall, smacking his headset against his palm, complaining, "God, I can't hear it! I can't hear it!" So, the idea really is that he is unable to hear the music. After he speaks his lines, the eerie "siren call" of the song's opening is heard. The face of the singer is intercut with shots of the young man, looking around, listening, looking for the music's source. It works very well, much better than the main version, in my opinion.

The video as a whole is quite different in the alternate version. In the main version, the band is shown performing on stage whenever the young man is not shown. In the alternate version, they are photographed as actors might be, in costume, often against carnival settings. The effect is more theatrical, surreal, even haunting.

I much preferred the alternate to the final version. I even got to like the song this time around. For any of you who might like to hear this song, here is a link to a site that hosts Cranberries songs for downloading (MP3 SUGAR.COM):


Some of you also asked where the DVD can be purchased. I found that Amazon is still selling it, and more cheaply than when I bought it last year. Here is a link to Amazon's page:


Below is the first of three more sets of screencaps. As you will see, some frames are only slightly different from caps I've already posted in Parts I - IV, but I liked the "alternate" versions of them so well, I had to post them. This set includes a lot more of the lemony-tinted "angsty" material. Some of it is very good indeed!

~ Series Five of the Elijah Wood "Ridiculous Thoughts" screencaps, from the "Alternate Take", to be found on the "Extra Features," of the Cranberries DVD, "STARS - The Best of Videos 1992-2002"....

Click HERE for table of Frodo and Elijah Wood Screencaps.

~ Mechtild


aquila0212 at 2006-02-01 13:53 (UTC) (Link)
Mech, I have purposely avoided these screencap posts of yours because I already have 1000 pics of Lij from this video...and I knew that if I opened even one post, I'd be tempted to save 1000 more....

He's just...there are no words for how beautiful he is in this video. Glad you found the "extended edition".
mechtild at 2006-02-01 15:00 (UTC) (Link)
Ah, thank you Aquila. Yes, "the extended edition." That's good. You have A THOUSAND? This is only a little more than a hundred. I can't believe there is a cap in here you don't already have. For me, though, the pleasure comes from seeing them displayed like this, so that one can scroll down a set of full-sized caps. It isn't the same, for me, when I click open a set of frames in sequence. Slide show works pretty well, but I still like it that I get to see one image fade into the other and see the transition as it is happening.

He's just...there are no words for how beautiful he is in this video.

aquila0212 at 2006-02-01 15:17 (UTC) (Link)
No, not a thousand -- I was being facetious. But I do have...a lot.
mechtild at 2006-02-01 15:54 (UTC) (Link)
Ah, well, that's a relief. (Friends in H.S. used to tease me about taking things literally, I confess....*blush*)
wendylady1 at 2006-02-01 20:52 (UTC) (Link)
I just LOVE your screencapping of this video !!

I haven't had the pleasure of watching this yet, but I do remember reading that there was an awful lot of disagreement between either the video Director versus the Band, or the Band and the Director versus the record label...but I do remember that the disagreement was about how much of the film sequence there should be in the video, and how much band footage there should be, proportionwise...

I would reckon that the Director and the band wanted the arty film version, starring Elijah, and the Record Label wanted what ended up as the finished article, with much more emphasis on the band playing the song...

I'm very glad to hear that the original video has been included somewhere for posterity, because it reflects what the band originally wanted for their song...and gives us an opportunity for endless perving...er, screencapping of course !
mechtild at 2006-02-01 21:18 (UTC) (Link)
Thanks, Wendy, for a bit of background on the video itself. I so much preferred the "artier" version, which established a distinct sense of narrative, and loads of mood. The band footage wasn't bad, but it was interchangeable with any other band footage.

The video works much better for me in its "alternate" version, which lets the visuals carry the interest, making it seem that there is a story where there really isn't one. The song itself has very repetitive, uninteresting lyrics, although the sound of it is evocative.

(Check out the lyrics on a website. Not much to rave about, in my opinion.)
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