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NF-Lee's Gildor and Frodo

Anniversary of March 25 ~ 'Naked in the Dark' by jan-u-wine, with painting by Tim Kirk.

Posted on 2011.03.25 at 07:57


Lavender Took
lavendertook at 2011-03-28 03:11 (UTC) (Link)
Wow. I think Jan's really caught the paradox of the merging between Sauron and Frodo at this moment. It's very powerful and frightening--much more frightening than the moment Tolkien gives us because he's distanced us from Frodo then. I'm thinking this is the moments before Frodo claims the ring and puts it on and there is still a hair breath's space between the two, where he still has his own humility to find it ironic that Sauron is being revealed to the likes of himself. What I'm getting here is that the moment after he puts it on, he and me are merged then into one and Frodo does not exist independent of Sauron once he claims the ring? That is, until Gollum frees him of the burden. Jan?

Poor dear hobbit, hobbits. Sam and Smeagol, too. Thank you both. *hugs*
mechtild at 2011-03-28 13:13 (UTC) (Link)
That you must ask jan-u-wine, exactlt which moment this is in the horrible process. Every reader has her own understanding of what went on in there. As you say, Tolkien did not portray the inner workings of the scene -- giving us all something to chew on ever since! And something to write about as fanfic sub-creators. :) It sure is an excellent piece, though, whatever one thinks went on just before the Ring was claimed. Poor, dear Frodo. What a terrible moment.
jan_u_wine at 2011-05-06 16:55 (UTC) (Link)
dear LT, I'm sorry that it has taken me so long to reply to this.....

as always, there's a story to this. As I wrote this, I was preparing to read "Mt. Doom" as part of Reading Day LA. I had also listened to that portion of the BBC recording. Movie-verse and book-verse are mixing freely here, I should say, with images from the movie prompting some of the verse. When we see (for example) Frodo 'batting' away imaginary wraiths (whilst still outside the chamber), we understand that he is in his last throes. To me, it is implied that when, in that scene, he sees (and is seen by) The Eye, that there is another blow to his sanity and self-hood struck, a self-hood that must have been on a thread even before that. Frodo, as a person, is dying. Not his body, perhaps, but all that makes him *himself* is shutting down.

In the main, I should say that this poem is written to the movie scene where Sam is begging Frodo to throw the Ring in. We hear Frodo's heart-beat, we see the struggle, apparent upon his face. A tear slides down his cheek. And then there is no more heart-beat.

Of course, if there is no more Frodo, how is it that he is speaking (in this poem)? It's a cheat of a sort, yes, but the most powerful way that I could think of to tell the story. I could tell it from Sam's pov, but he wouldn't be experiencing what Frodo was. I could tell it from Sauron's pov. For myself, though I have written poems from his pov, I'm not all that interested in them. It is human struggle that concerns me, human morals and redemption. Sadly, I don't think that Sauron put up much of a struggle against his morally objectionable impulses. So, we hear Frodo's voice, here, even though really we should not be able to.

hope that explains at least a little
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