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NF-Lee's Gildor and Frodo

Galadriel’s Glade 2 ~ Frodo looks into the mirror, plus jan-u-wine's Lórien Suite 3.

Posted on 2009.06.03 at 07:11

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pearlette
pearlette at 2009-06-03 15:23 (UTC) (Link)
I absolutely adore Blanchett's Galadriel. It was perfect casting, IMO.

I have many minor beefs with PJ's adaptational choices, but the Mirror scene is not one of them. It's probably my favourite sequence in the whole of FotR. I just LOVE it: it's so mysterious and powerful and dream-like. I also madly love Shore's music for this scene: truly his score makes these films what they are, a point hammered home for me when I saw FotR at the Royal Albert Hall with a live orchestra playing. And it was the music, rather than the film, that moved me. (Since I've seen FotR zillions of times, I'm somewhat blase about it now, although will always treasure my memories of the intensity of my first viewing.)

The only thing I don't like about this sequence is Galadriel going nuclear: nothing really wrong with portraying her Ring-temptation moment like that from a canon POV, I guess, just all a bit overwrought!! PJ should have trusted more to Cate's acting, since she could have carried that moment on the strength of her acting alone. Some enhanced effects would have been fine too, like the ones used when Gandalf gets angry with Bilbo in Bag End for wanting to keep the Ring -- that was a great way to hint at G's hidden power.

But for me personally there is not this great divide between LotR Galadriel and Movie Galadriel. The film portrayed Silmarillion Galadriel to me and that really is how I prefer her. She has an EDGE, as I interpret her, and while her long years have matured her and taught her greater wisdom -- she is no longer a Noldorin rebel, nor the proud lady who refused to give Feanor a lock of her hair (I know he was a jerk, but he wasn't exactly asking for the moon, was he, LOL) -- I do like her portrayed with that edge.

Similarly, I don't see this great divide between the book's portrayal of Lothlorien as a gently restorative haven and the film's darker, edgier depiction of it as the Perilous Realm. The book portrays it as a Perilous Realm too -- certainly the Rohirrim and Gondorians see it as such! And they are right, in some ways. It's guarded by deadly Noldor who will not hesitate to shoot an enemy dead.

Whose perspective is Jan's poem written from? I'm at work so confess I read it in rather a hurry.

Your screencaps are just incredible, btw.

Mechtild
mechtild at 2009-06-03 15:42 (UTC) (Link)
ETA: I should make the note bigger, but in the intro. remark about the poem (last paragraph before the book excerpt), I say that the poem is written from Galadriel's point of view. Maybe I should put that down before the poem itself. I didn't because I wanted the poem to flow directly from the caps.

The film portrayed Silmarillion Galadriel to me and that really is how I prefer her. She has an EDGE, as I interpret her, and while her long years have matured her and taught her greater wisdom -- she is no longer a Noldorin rebel, nor the proud lady who refused to give Feanor a lock of her hair (I know he was a jerk, but he wasn't exactly asking for the moon, was he, LOL) -- I do like her portrayed with that edge.

Very good, Pearl! That's a great way for me to look at film Galadriel. I don't see this character in LotR itself, I confess. I think JRRT really only filled out her story in hindsight. But the story of the young Noldorin Elizabeth I-to-be (perhaps another reason Cate strikes the right note for me?) is a fascinating one (LOVED when she wouldn't give Feanor any of her hair).

Yes, Lothlórien was portrayed as dangerous in the book in so far as it was heavily guarded and it was death to enter without leave etc. But was that because this was part of the essence of the place or because over time Lórien had come under relentless siege, with orcs from the Misty Mountains to the west and Sauron to the east?

The sort of fear the Men of Rohan (and Gondor) felt towards Lórien and its Lady had a lot more to do, I think, with the sort of awed fear rightly due "the Perilous Realm". It's not that you might get filled with arrows passing too close, it's because you might find it so heady and so enthralling you might never want to leave. If you lost your life, maybe even your self, it would be life as you'd known it and your self as you thought you knew it. Not because of an assault, something externally done to you by the land or its enchanted and enchanting people, but because you had followed your own aroused desire for the sublime and mysterious at the heart of the world. Or that's what I think, anyway.

Your screencaps are just incredible, btw.

Don't miss the ones from last week; they're beauts, too. (Link is at bottom of post.)

Pearl, now that you're back, how was Wales? Will you be posting about it? I hope so.

Edited at 2009-06-03 03:47 pm (UTC)
pearlette
pearlette at 2009-06-03 15:51 (UTC) (Link)
You're absolutely right about book Galadriel. I really do look at LotR from the perspective of The Silmarillion, since I was so blown away by the Big Picture presented in Sil. And I loved the edgier Galadriel presented in Sil. It also makes sense of her long story.

I can't really argue with your thoughts on Lorien. ;)


When I get a chance, I hope to post about Wales. I no longer have the time or the energy to post more on my LJ more than once a week, if that. But it was a wonderful, restorative holiday and we were staying in such a beautiful region. The landscape (ancient mountains, ancient forests, hills and valleys) was positively Arthurian. I could easily imagine one of the lakes we passed -- its grey, ruffled waters nestling under the frowning cliffs of Cader Idris -- being the place where Excalibur lies buried ... When I get a chance, I'll post my photos but this is unlikely to be before the weekend.

For my birthday, my sister gave me the latest Tolkien tome: 'The Legend of Sigurd and Gudrun'. :) It looks GREAT. I've still not read 'Children of Hurin' though.


Mechtild
mechtild at 2009-06-03 16:35 (UTC) (Link)
Oooh, you were given Sigurd and Gudrun? I still haven't got it. You're the first person I've heard from who's actually read it. You make me all excited. I love that story anyway, and how cool to read it told by JRRT.

Yeah, I now read LotR from the perspective of the Silmarillion stories, too. It can't be helped: once you have heard those tales, how can they not inform your imagination when you're reading? But I can still retain a sense for where Tolkien was when he was writing LotR. I'm no purist, though. Even if he hadn't yet worked out the details of Galadriel's backstory, what he came up with (or the various versions of it) rings true with his larger history of the Noldor, what with their special gifts and challenges and weaknesses were. He seemed to veer between "proud, brilliant creator/ruler Galadriel" and a highly compassionate, all-wise, sad-smiling sort of Our Lady of the Penitent and Sorrowful. I think they're all in the mix, the versions, and I see no problem perceiving them in the canon character. If he hadn't yet explicitly formulated her character and role in M-E at that point, it was all there in nuss, in his head, simmering away in the pot of his imagination.

Oh, Wales sounds dreamy. And it's really spurring you on to some fine language: "grey, ruffled waters nestling under the frowning cliffs of Cader Idris". Hubba hubba; great, vivid description. *wants to go there*

Edited at 2009-06-03 04:37 pm (UTC)
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