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NF-Lee's Gildor and Frodo

The Black Gate, Pt. 3 ~ Frodo and Sam hide under the Elven cloak….

Posted on 2007.04.29 at 16:49
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The good thing about this sequence is that Frodo gets to save Sam. Frodo doesn’t have that many opportunities to be a rescuer in the films.

Other than that, this moment seems a bit superfluous to me, and unconvincing, the screenwriters trying to “up the ante” by injecting a dose of peril.

But really, it also must have puzzled viewers who’d never read the book. In the theatrical version there is no gift-giving scene to show the cloaks came from the Elves, and no mention is made of the cloaks’ special camouflaging properties. In explanation, there is only Sam’s line (which I never could understand watching the film), “I doubt even these Elvish cloaks will hide us in there.” But this line only comes after the moment when they hide under the cloak.

I think non-book viewers must have been quite puzzled as to why Frodo’s plain-looking cloak should magically be made to resemble a large boulder from six feet away.


Whatever the merits or demerits of the “hiding under the cloak” scene, I am posting these caps on their own because as caps they destroys the serious mood of the rest of the Black Gate sequence. Seen out of context, these caps are rather hilarious.

In fact, they are so hilarious, they cry out for captions. I’ve made up several of my own, but I don’t want to spoil the fun for the rest of you. So that you can have your own fun, I’ve numbering the images for your caption-making pleasure.


ETA: I want to apologize to fans whom I may have offended with my not very appreciative remarks, fans for whom this scene worked as the filmmakers intended.


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As usual, the screencaps of this scene (made from the EE of TTT) have been cropped and adjusted for brightness, contrast and focus.










~ Frodo and Sam under the Elven cloak....


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Recent Entries:


~ On the walls, and at the Sewers of Osgiliath.


~ Black Gate, Pt. 1: Frodo attempts the Black Gate.


~ Black Gate, Pt. 2: Gollum proposes another way.


~ Black Gate, Pt. 3: Frodo and Sam hide under the Elven cloak.





Older entries:


~ All Frodo and Elijah screencaps.




~ Mechtild





Comments:


Eandme
eandme at 2007-04-29 22:22 (UTC) (Link)
I was pondering what you wrote about the cloaks' properties, and I think this scene served to show exactly how they work. I had not read the books before watching the movie, and to me this was not confusing. I think this scene sort of clarified just how much of a protection the cloaks actually were.

Oh and Elijah looks fantastically beautiful here. Except I don't really see Elijah, I see Frodo, but anyway. You know what I mean.
Mechtild
mechtild at 2007-04-29 22:42 (UTC) (Link)
Well that's a comfort, Eandme. I know some people were wondering about it. Maybe most of them were like you. Me, if I hadn't known to look, I would probably not have noticed the cloak Frodo was wearing after Lorien was different from the one he'd had on leaving Bag End. For someone who studied costuming, I'd have got a failing mark. :) I'm glad you liked the images.
Shirebound
shirebound at 2007-04-29 22:25 (UTC) (Link)
The good thing about this sequence is that Frodo gets to save Sam. Frodo doesn’t have that many opportunities to be a rescuer in the films.

I completely agree, and it's a treat in the film to see this courageous action on Frodo's part.

I know you don't read much fanfiction, but I wrote a very short dramatization of this scene if you're interested... http://www.storiesofarda.com/chapterlistview.asp?SID=1438

As always, it's lovely to see such close-up frames of these scenes. Thank you for all your hard work.
Mechtild
mechtild at 2007-04-29 22:43 (UTC) (Link)
Thanks for the link, Shirebound. And thanks for commenting. :)
Mechtild
mechtild at 2007-04-29 22:46 (UTC) (Link)
I just read your dramatization, Shirebound. I can see that the scene worked for you as the filmmakers intended. Your story, more than the actual scene, helped make it work for me, too. Thanks!
Shirebound
shirebound at 2007-04-29 22:46 (UTC) (Link)
Thank you so much. :)
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Mechtild
mechtild at 2007-04-29 22:50 (UTC) (Link)
Frodo would never abandon someone in need, even Gollum, but *especially* not Sam. :)
On the third day there was Slash and it was good.
random_fandom at 2007-04-29 23:51 (UTC) (Link)
I was just wondering who's caps these are? I don't mind if they are mine, I was just wondering.
Mechtild
mechtild at 2007-04-30 02:27 (UTC) (Link)
Whose are they? Do you mean who made them? I did. I make all my caps, custom tweaking and cropping them individually. Did you cap this scene, too? I apologize if I've been redundant. :)
Mechtild
mechtild at 2007-04-30 02:41 (UTC) (Link)
I know you don't stop in here that often, Random Fandom, but here's my page of links for all my caps:

http://mechtild.livejournal.com/22759.html

I've been working my way through the films and some of the Extras (Frodo scenes only) since November of 2005. I hope to finish posting all the caps I've made, all from TTT and RotK at this point, in the next several weeks. I've been pressing myself to finish because I'm going to be moving from an itty-bitty job to a full-time one, something I haven't done for many years. I don't know if I'll have any energy left for these projects once I lose that extra 30 hours of spare time each week.
On the third day there was Slash and it was good.
random_fandom at 2007-04-30 14:13 (UTC) (Link)
Oh wow, well you have done an amazing job, hun! If you do ever need to use any of my caps, do feel free to do so.

I know how long it takes to make these, so once you start your new job you could still continue these using my caps if you don't have the time to cap your own.

*big hugs*
Mechtild
mechtild at 2007-04-30 14:45 (UTC) (Link)
Thanks, Random! That's a very kind offer!

Claudia's Cove
claudia603 at 2007-04-30 00:35 (UTC) (Link)
I too love how this scene allows Frodo to save Sam, although I must admit people must have been confused who had not read the book, lol! I always forget that there were actually people who watched the movie that must have been so confused and lost in areas, lol! :-) Well, I hope it just encouraged them to find the book and read it! :-)
Mechtild
mechtild at 2007-04-30 02:28 (UTC) (Link)
My husband is still asking, "Which one is Arawon?" Sounds like a brand of organic rice.
Mona
lame_pegasus at 2007-04-30 06:40 (UTC) (Link)
*laughs aloud*

My hubby needed the movies to finally be able to know who was Aragorn and who Boromir! *laughs again*

And I had - as a long time book-reader - no problems with the fact that the cloak made them practically invisible. The only thing that always makes me shake my head is the fact that they don't hide longer... but they want to pass the gate, which makes even this detail more logical.

And I'm glad that we get so see a stronger, protective Frodo here.
Mechtild
mechtild at 2007-04-30 12:45 (UTC) (Link)
You're right, they do leap up well before the soldiers are out of ear or eye-shot. I figured the filmmakers were in a hurry to press on, though, not Frodo and Sam!

Yes, I knew why they were supposed to have magical cloaks as a book reader, but I saw no reason why unread viewers should know that. But Eandme said above that she made that assumption without thinking (that Frodo's cloak was magical), so the filmmakers guessed right.
pearlette
pearlette at 2007-04-30 19:27 (UTC) (Link)
Oh, please post the captions you made, Mechtild.

I don't have the time to think of any of my own, but those screencaps ARE pretty hilarious. :)
Mechtild
mechtild at 2007-04-30 19:47 (UTC) (Link)
I don't think I ought, Pearl. From my responses, I think that more people than not who appreciate the caps don't do so for their humour. I don't want to spoil it for them. Just because I see the caps as dripping with innuendo doesn't mean every one does. Or maybe they're just being too literal: there's not much Frodo *could* be doing back there, since Sam is buried up to his waist. Or maybe the implied scenario just doesn't ring true to fans, since the positioning implies that Frodo is on the giving end, with Sam as the receiver. This usually is not the case in S/F fic, at least not in my reading experience. ;)
Estë   (or ST for short)
este_tangletoes at 2007-05-01 18:28 (UTC) (Link)
Thank you for sharing!

*Hugs stronger, protective Frodo, and Mechling*

--Estë
Mechtild
mechtild at 2007-05-01 19:33 (UTC) (Link)
I get to hug him after you! I get to hug him after you! (No, I haven't grown up yet.)
frodosweetstuff
frodosweetstuff at 2007-05-10 13:46 (UTC) (Link)
Thank you for the great screencaps! A few years ago, I would just have seen Frodo and Sam. Now, I add dirty captions to every single one of them... *blushes*

:)
Mechtild
mechtild at 2007-05-10 19:59 (UTC) (Link)
HA! Well, go you, Frodosweetstuff. They do just beg for captions. I've thought of many, all hilarious (to me).
julchen11
julchen11 at 2007-05-20 21:36 (UTC) (Link)
Those caps are sooooo beautiful ... hilarious, as you say. Thank you, Mechtild.
Have a wonderful start into the new week, enjoy your time, my dear!
Mechtild
mechtild at 2007-05-21 12:53 (UTC) (Link)
Those caps are sooooo beautiful ... hilarious, as you say.

One day we should have a captions-writing contest, although I'll bet a lot of us would come up with nearly the same captions. *grin*
julchen11
julchen11 at 2007-05-21 21:31 (UTC) (Link)
Caption-writing contest, that would be great! I'm sure you would be surprised what friends would have to say *hugs tight*
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